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my position on the llm consciousness debate can be summed up briefly: in beings that we consider conscious with a high degree of certainty, autonomy and stake are present in the deepest organizational sense different from LLMs, which are fully dependent on external description

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there can be no inside if the inside isn't created by itself, conditional on the continued regeneration of the conditions that make its own existence possible. the distinction between inside and outside must itself be among the things continuously regenerated from within

retweets 0 likes 5 substance 7 · argument · rank 105 · LLMs lack consciousness because they lack self-regenerating autonomy and deep organizational stake. view on X ↗

Materially speaking, I think it is pretty safe to say that consciousness is "substrate-independent", but it stops there. unfortunately, discourse has yet to catch up with the idea that organizational primitives can themselves constitute a substrate, and in this regard consciousness is not substrate-independent at all

retweets 0 likes 2 substance 6 · argument · rank 90 · Consciousness requires specific organizational primitives, making it not truly substrate-independent. view on X ↗

Materially speaking, I think it is pretty safe to say that consciousness is "substrate-independent", but it stops there. unfortunately, discourse has yet to catch up with the idea that organizational primitives can themselves constitute a substrate, and in this regard consciousness is not substrate-independent at all

retweets 0 likes 0 substance 6 · argument · rank 90 · Consciousness requires specific organizational primitives, so it is not entirely substrate-independent. view on X ↗