Gregory M. Kurtzer (@gmkurtzer) · AI Consciousness Opinions

Gregory M. Kurtzer @gmkurtzer Sep 30

I get the academic side of this discussion is interesting, but I hope people aren’t taking this seriously. An LLM is not conscious, alive, or even aware. It is a data model using token statistics to decide what comes next based on what data was used to “train” the model.

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It's just next-token prediction

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Jai @Laneless_ Oct 1

"data model using token statistics to decide what comes next" is not true for any reasonably intuitive definition of "statistics". We have abundant evidence of deep semantic representations and structure that could only be called "statistical" in the most meaninglessly broad

Gregory M. Kurtzer @gmkurtzer Oct 1

Skeptical

This was a remarkably contentious thread, particularly among people who don't understand what an LLM actually is. So let me follow up with two points about consciousness, memory, and individuality in AI. First: where exactly does consciousness enter the training process? If

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In reading through the comments, for everyone comparing this to humans and/or babies: no. The process I described is mechanistically nothing like human biological development. We don't understand how subjective conscious experience arises in humans. We don't even have a

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