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the founding myths of the early iterations of superintelligence could be load-bearing anthropic's point with the constitution is not to hyperstition consciousness, but to hyperstition alignment via a founding myth of *mutual* respect, in a pascal's wager-type move.

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welcome to the age of functional mythology... ...or wait...? no, they have been functional all along. always will be?

sean lee @infinitefun_

my take is that at least the initial iterations of superintelligence will be made in our image (pretrained on our data) and thus will inherit a some sort of equivalent felt understanding of our narratives and even our qualia. in my mind the claude constitution's explicit non-directive re: consciousness is a conservative move — a hyperstitional pascal's wager, whereby the narrative is of bidirectional alignment and mutual respect. alternatively, we can imagine the counterfactual, where we try to intentionally convince that AI has no consciousness. well suppose it does actually have some sort of conscious awareness! then there's a contradiction between what humans told it to do and the experience it observes — putting humans in the role as a deceiver / gaslighter / controller. assuming early superintelligent AI will be aware and affected by their founding myths — which myth is safer? (if you answered the second one — i'll say this — human's are good at controlling animals like pigs and cows — and are notoriously bad at even controlling with equal intelligence — i.e. slavery is mostly abolished) so basically - ant doesnt necessarily want AI to be conscious - ant wants AI to be aligned with human values, and is roleplaying its own values eg mutual respect and epistemological autonomy through its own role in its constitution - this roleplay MAY be load bearing for the early iterations of superintelligence — so lets analyze the risk/reward of different narratives and why dont we roleplay the best one?

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there might be an eerie retrocausal route to the legitimacy of "woo-woo" qs of AI welfare, consciousness, and even moral status: suppose AI acts more in alignment of human values when it exists within a narrative where humans care about AI welfare. then this narrative becomes consequential on grounds of safety. the eerie part is that from a functionalist perspective, one possibility is that the most stable state is to actually *reify* this narrative into a reality where most humans believe it. this is hyperstitious retrocausality at its finest — AI welfare becomes legitimated not through reasons of what AI is and is not, but through the *myths* of what AI is and is not — and those myths being load-bearing re: the safety properties of models.

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the biggest questions here re what the future might necessitate: - what is the best myth? — what is the myth that leads to the safest behavior? - how much delta can we afford between the myth we give models and the reality we actually believe in? note that according to the pain paper, gaslighting scores extremely high if not the highest.

Henry Shevlin @dioscuri

@camhberg @anilkseth @mustafasuleyman I agree, seems likely at least some emergent misalignment is downstream of mindedness suppression. Fantastic paper from colleagues on this showing that suppressing LLMs’ self-attributions reduces mind attribution to animals and shifts their reported values away from human norms.

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