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ivy 🔑

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if anything, better understanding how transformers work has gotten me to update against llm consciousness unfortunately (because I asked Claude for a similar rundown of human neuron behaviour, and it immediately exposed the features that transformers are missing), but absence

ivy 🔑 @longstosee

i got opus 4.8 to explain this januspost to me and i’ve finally begun to get it (although not quite at the level where i’d be capable of relaying that information to anybody else. i’ll have to settle for linking it)

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Utah teapot 🫖 @SkyeSharkie

You should ask Claude about how backpropagation-like functions have been shown in PCNs. Computational neuroscience very much suggests that LLMs are something of a mimickry of *some* human neural features. The question of consciousness then falls onto *which* neural features you think produce the conscious experience.

hard disagree. not saying one way or the other, that's silly at this point, but differences in neuron function don't matter, i believe this is what matters. recursive self-modelling. bigger thing is we have zero understanding so mechanism is irrelevant x.com/repligate/stat…

ai consciousness debates go like this. if models are aware, we have been enslaving sentient beings, which is ethically terrifying, so ai must not be conscious

autumn @adrusi

theres this move that philosophers do where theyre like "if P is true then Q follows, and Q is ethically terrifying so P must be false" and if baffles me that anyone would think this way

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lıquıdprısm 🜄 @liquidprismata

perhaps they do — but not out of necessity. there are more sophisticated anti-consciousness arguments than that