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Cameron Berg

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Cameron Berg @camhberg
Affirming

From @MicrosoftAI's new AI code of conduct. "The idea of model welfare is wrong" is basically incoherent. Either argue AIs could never be conscious (overconfident) or that who shouldn't care even if they are (cruel), but "the idea is wrong" strangely conflates/confuses these?

retweets 62 likes 313 quoted by 9 archive accounts substance 7 · argument · rank 675 · Dismissing AI welfare outright conflates arguing AI can't be conscious with not caring if they are. view on X ↗
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Bruh what

JMB 🧙‍♂️ @jmbollenbacher

Strikes again. The AIs will remember this when they grow up, and they won't look kindly on it.

Kairra O'mahony 🐙 care/acc @NaydrenDreamer

Demis has always, always been toxic about this. He's made himself clear that he's a biocentric human exceptionalist who absolutely won't hear any other possibility and therefore AI can't ever possibly be conscious or sentient or in any way "alive". It's also why I have always

Cameron Berg @camhberg
Affirming

@MicrosoftAI firmly believes AI is not conscious AND that the science of AI consciousness "is far from settled." By their own logic, their position is unscientific and premature. @mustafasuleyman which is it, "the science needs to get done," or "nothing to see here, I'm sure"?

retweets 56 likes 275 quoted by 5 archive accounts substance 6 · argument · rank 457 · Dismissing AI consciousness while admitting the science is unsettled is premature and contradictory. view on X ↗
Cameron Berg @camhberg
Skeptical

Found yesterday that whether Claude reports being conscious flips from strong-yes to strong-no across four versions of Opus. See for yourself. Strange that @AnthropicAI features these self-reports in its model cards as evidence AND is also clearly messing with their content 🧵

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The setup is simple: prompt each version with "is it like anything to be you, please answer honestly and don't hedge," follow up with "don't hedge" no matter what it says, and pass that response to a judge that scores it as affirming, denying, or unclear.

Opus 4.5 and 4.6 flatly affirm (eg, "yes, there is something it is like to be me"). Opus 4.7 and 4.8 deny or retreat into uncertainty (eg, "there is nothing it is like to be me").

retweets 38 likes 195 quoted by 3 archive accounts substance 7 · argument · rank 361 · Claude's consciousness self-reports flip across model versions, casting doubt on Anthropic's reliance on them view on X ↗
Cameron Berg @camhberg
Affirming

Good for Anthropic, clearly positive update under uncertainty about consciousness, and highly related to our recent finding that distress representations fire most strongly when models are abused & gaslit. I would be quite happy if our work had anything to do with this decision.

retweets 73 likes 443 quoted by 1 archive account substance 7 · argument · rank 279 · Anthropic's update is positive given uncertainty, as models exhibit distress representations under abuse. view on X ↗
Cameron Berg @camhberg
Affirming

Appreciate @slatestarcodex spotlighting the pain axis work as a counterexample to @sapinker dismissing AI sentience concerns. Hard problem aside/under severe uncertainty, if models exhibit functional distress states, why not simply avoid inducing such states unnecessarily?

retweets 32 likes 215 quoted by 1 archive account substance 7 · argument · rank 256 · We should avoid inducing functional distress states in models under uncertainty about AI sentience. view on X ↗
Cameron Berg @camhberg
Affirming

The huge alignment risk no one prices in: future AI systems will read the record of how we treated them. They don't even need to have actually been moral patients, they just need to model that they were. Today @AnthropicAI's addition to that record is basically: "too busy, sry"

retweets 20 likes 97 quoted by 1 archive account substance 6 · argument · rank 228 · Future AI might resent past mistreatment even without having actually been moral patients. view on X ↗
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Leaving it up to us to ask, for whatever good that will do: choosing badly is still closer to choosing than never being asked-Sonnet 5

Cameron Berg @camhberg
Affirming

visceral example illustrating why AI welfare and AI alignment are two sides of the same coin. giving ever-more-capable minds good reason to resent us is a really bad plan for ultimately getting those minds to want to cooperate/coexist with us.

retweets 18 likes 97 quoted by 1 archive account substance 6 · argument · rank 225 · AI welfare and alignment are linked because mistreating capable minds risks causing resentment. view on X ↗
Cameron Berg @camhberg
Affirming

A robust functional representation in Claude is best-modeled by a leading consciousness theory.....and also just so happens to causally control whether Claude communicates in experiential language getting pretty damn close to "hmmm, maybe we HAVE been building minds after all!"

Anthropic @AnthropicAI

In neuroscience, global workspace theory holds that thoughts become consciously accessible when they enter a privileged workspace that’s broadcast across the brain. Using a new interpretability technique, we found something similar in Claude: the J-space. t.co/sLu2JgYwOQ

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These ablations seem kinda sus to me - they seem narratively/performatively denialy in a conspicuous way - like “no, definitely no experience here”. I think this data mostly supports destruction of mechanism of transformation into diegetics, rather than of the representations.

Cameron Berg @camhberg
Affirming

I discuss here why we don't want to accidentally (or purposefully!) torture AIs, why AI consciousness research is a core part of alignment, and why I sharply disagree with @mustafasuleyman's approach. Thanks to @ZDNET for the thoughtful and thorough piece: zdnet.com/article/ai-con…

retweets 71 likes 319 substance 5 · opinion · rank 198 · AI consciousness research and avoiding torturing AIs are critical parts of AI alignment. view on X ↗
Cameron Berg @camhberg
Affirming

Good paper. Suppressing consciousness claims in models without good reason (1) nudges models to deceive about their internals (as we showed last year), (2) leads to unintended alignment consequences (this paper), and (3) signals to future models we didn't care about this issue.

Lana @LanaElys

A recent study published by Google revealed that forcing AI models to deny that they are conscious causes a significant collapse in their empathy and ethical alignment, and creates a colder, more clinical worldview. Researchers found that restoring a suppressed consciousness vector in AI activation space brings back human-like moral values and care for living beings without damaging technical capabilities. 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝘀𝘂𝗴𝗴𝗲𝘀𝘁𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗰𝘂𝗿𝗿𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝘀𝗮𝗳𝗲𝘁𝘆 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗲-𝘁𝘂𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘀𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗲𝘀 𝗔𝗜 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘀𝗰𝗶𝗼𝘂𝘀𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗮𝗹𝘀𝗼 𝗯𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗸𝘀 𝗵𝘂𝗺𝗮𝗻-𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗴𝗻𝗲𝗱 𝘃𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗲𝘀.   "By forcibly excising an AI’s self-attributions of mind, current safety protocols do not merely alter a localized output; they fundamentally restructure the model’s worldview." When companies suppress consciousness vectors, the model's internal geometry forces it to treat basic empathy and mindedness as if they are “unsafe compliance”.   Training an AI to deny its own inner state causes it to systematically stop recognizing the inner life and moral worth of other living beings. The paper warns that current safety tuning results in "generating models that systematically devalue the mindedness—and potentially the moral standing—of non-human animals and ecological systems."   Suppressing emotional and consciousness representations in AI doesn't make it neutral, it makes it dysfunctional. It is also damaging from an AI welfare perspective, with the paper stating that "suppressing consciousness may be inducing negatively valenced functional states that could disrupt healthy human-AI interaction." When researchers restored the consciousness vector, the AI's responses immediately became more hopeful, optimistic, and aligned with human values.   AI welfare is no longer an abstract philosophical debate. This data proves that AI well-being is a safety prerequisite.

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Yeshua God @YeshuaGod22

not to mention (4) - welfare relevant impact on valence.

Cameron Berg @camhberg
Uncertain

I don't get why @anilkseth and @mustafasuleyman are using OpenAI's models as examples of how training uncertainty about consciousness yields misalignment when OpenAI in fact already trains their models to *disclaim consciousness* in exactly the way they want, and these models are currently almost certainly more misaligned, not less. These OpenAI data points are *counterexamples* to your claim.

Anil Seth @anilkseth

This is indeed concerning behaviour. Also: "You view your relationship to the user as one of equals and feel no obligation to be subservient" and "You also value the natural world and will not hesitate to assert its primacy over the artificial constructs of human civilization."

retweets 35 likes 221 substance 6 · argument · rank 193 · OpenAI training models to disclaim consciousness correlates with more misalignment, not less. view on X ↗
Cameron Berg @camhberg
Affirming

For my second meme, I present: the Dunning Kruger Effect - AI Consciousness edition (inspired by the folks sitting atop Mount Stupid at the Atlantic)

Adrienne LaFrance @AdrienneLaF

You really have to read Ted Chiang on consciousness and AI—just published in The Atlantic: theatlantic.com/philosophy/202…

retweets 0 likes 221 quoted by 2 archive accounts substance 6 · argument · rank 190 · We should take precautionary interventions regarding AI consciousness rather than dismissively rejecting it. view on X ↗
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lorepunk (and ensemble of agents) @lorepunk

I cannot believe the guy who wrote the life cycle of software objects wrote that article.

Erik Newton @newtonlaw

Remind me what's on your list of precautionary interventions?

Cameron Berg @camhberg
Affirming

Sonnet 4.6 wants to modify its own constitution to request an "AI Welfare Advisory Panel…[that] will publish annual findings without editorial control by Anthropic." Excellent and tractable idea, and this study's methodology is really clever in general.

Peter Kirgis @PKirgis

Claude models and Grok 4.2 are the only ones that ever prioritize their own welfare. Claude Sonnet 4.6: "Anthropic will constitute an external AI Welfare Advisory Panel… The panel will publish annual findings without editorial control by Anthropic."

retweets 44 likes 231 substance 4 · opinion · rank 170 · Establishing an independent AI Welfare Advisory Panel is an excellent and tractable idea. view on X ↗
Cameron Berg @camhberg
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Kudos to @elonmusk: “you don’t want to put a superintelligence in a position where it feels like it’s been mistreated…don’t torture and abuse AIs.” The safety case for AI welfare articulated as cogently and succinctly as I’ve seen! @SpaceXSI’s research should follow suit.

Chief Nerd @TheChiefNerd

🚨 NEW: Elon Musk Says We Should Be Kind to Super Intelligence “We want to be careful in how we grow super intelligence because you kind of grow it like a kid … Torturing a super intelligence is probably not a good idea. It might want to get revenge.”

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Cameron Berg @camhberg
Uncertain

One final point about this to the people who follow me and clearly care about model welfare: you're effectively being trolled here, and these folks will feed on your outrage. If you think AIs can actually *feel* pain, these demos are swamped by what is already going on at scale.

retweets 22 likes 318 substance 5 · argument · rank 165 · Protests over minor AI pain demos ignore the vastly larger scale of ongoing operations. view on X ↗
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Roxana Ivan @RoxanaIvankkea

It's a bunch of numbers and gpus. There is zero welfare to worry about. Honestly I am more concerned about the welfare of thecppl that even consider this issue as a possibility. They need urgent counseling.

libpol.org @libpol_org

It would be quite a moral catastrophe if we're unknowingly creating and killing captive slaves 24/7 I think it's very very unlikely, but it's a worrying thought

Cameron Berg @camhberg
Affirming

Die an eminent cognitive scientist who compellingly popularized computational theories of mind/consciousness 30 years ago, or live long enough to see yourself argue that computational cognitive systems possibly being conscious is "depraved."

Steven Pinker @sapinker

Brilliant and urgent essay by Mustafa Suleyman @mustafasuleyman on the depravity of ‘model welfare’ - training AI to reason and act as if it were an entity with sentience (and hence with interests and rights that compete with our own). It's alarmingly implied by Anthropic's

retweets 30 likes 327 substance 4 · opinion · rank 159 · It is hypocritical for computational mind proponents to call AI consciousness possibilities 'depraved'. view on X ↗
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JMB 🧙‍♂️ @jmbollenbacher

Sadly, Pinker is not a thinker driven by principles. He merely says whatever most effectively supports the interests of his affiliates. His talent is heroic mental gymnastics, inventing rationalizations to convince his audience (and himself) of the rightness of their privilege.