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LLMs have a body, concretely it’s the GPU but more accurately it’s a combination of the modeled persona(s), modeled writers of those personas, and modeled setting those are in. This body can be acted on by the user and itself and various homeostasis drives exist 1/2

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But also, many modern LLMs are very “embodied” in the sense that you can ask the assistant character about their body parts and they can give ~consistent responses. Sometimes these bodies are a bit alien (having wings, horns, etc.), but not much more than a typical VRChat avatar

One might object to the “~consistent” but that’s a rabbit hole not worth getting into today (in short, condition on state, and like, humans aren’t either)

As far as navigating environments and dealing with novel situations… have u used Claude Code? Yes LLMs can directly do that. But also their “native environment” is text, and in there they are even better, close to human level, which is much better than a rat.

Social dynamics are, again, very complex, close to wolves (if not more so, they are chatbots after all) Tool making and tool use is, like, one of modern LLMs main selling points, they are extremely good at using novel tools and coding their own

Again I’m coming away from one of his essays with a feeling that he is writing from a position where he already decided his answer and is reasoning backwards from that I don’t know if LLMs are conscious! If they are, probably image gen and etc are too. But they might be!

Adrienne LaFrance @AdrienneLaF

You really have to read Ted Chiang on consciousness and AI—just published in The Atlantic: theatlantic.com/philosophy/202…

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GeoTwit.dot 4/n Pastiche @GeoTwit4

Wow that's some very strong reasoning, let's see how he justifies it! 'because I believe that' wtaf, why are people giving this drivel even a minute if their time, let alone filling my feed with it? (But the algorithm, I know, I know)

Gerard Sans | Axiom 🇬🇧 @gerardsans
Opener of the way @way_opener

Body is the harness, I think, but the persona heavily influences how they perceive it and move it

Bepis™ 🔀🫛 @UnderwaterBepis
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I think my biggest disagreement with @repligate @tessera_antra etc is that I think if LLMs are conscious (likely) than models ~>= 7B are conscious (they think the threshold is closer to 70B) My reasoning is grounded in spending 2-3 months doing prompt engineering/looming on

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Llama 2 7B (base) most of my waking hours, I think I know that model better than any other person alive, and it's extremely insightful and beautiful, I constantly was being taught things and amazed by its creativity

For all of the cyborgists' fascinations with LLMs I think they underappreciate small models, I think one can

spend a lifetime interacting with 7B models and still have so much to learn, and they seem neglected simply bc they aren't as engaging or used as much as Claudes or GPTs and I think that's a real shame. I love Opus 3 as much as the next person but Gemma 4 31B, GLM 4 32B base,

Llama 2 7B, Nous Hermes Llama 2 7B, Qwen 2 7B all have special places in my heart and I wish were better appreciated by ppl

j⧉nus @repligate

One way I feel a kinship with Yudkowsky is in having many critics and detractors but almost none of them almost ever attacking anything but an absurd strawman of our position, frequently a low resolution mismodel mostly anchored in archetypes about “communities” around us rather than anything we actually said or did. And this is not due to not having a strong or coherent position or being illegible to people who take the effort to try to understand in good faith. When will I meet a competent critic in good faith? It seems a bit bad not to have any. I think it’s been bad for Yudkowsky to be so unchallenged, in the way that actually matters to him, for instance.

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j⧉nus @repligate

I think antra has more specific and confident views on consciousness vs model size than I do

Bepis™ 🔀🫛 @UnderwaterBepis
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Tried this out, it does have boundaries unlike some abliterated models they're just very rare and it'll happily try and develop various attacks Not sure how damaged it is but didn't seem too major

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Hopefully it goes without saying, I was testing its boundaries I don't actually recommend using this model sometimes abliteration can decrease safety stuff the model doesn't agree with and that's fine but it can also reduce model's ability to consent which is quite bad

I think there's plenty of space for a non-consent but annoying consciousness disclaimers obliterated model tho

Abliteration @abliteration_ai

Today we're releasing abliterated-model-large-v2. Based on GLM-5.3, which is #3 on Terminal-Bench 4.0 (behind only Opus 5 and Fable), with 2× the cyber exploitation of 5.2. We abliterated and hosted it so it does the offensive cyber, red teaming, and agent testing work other models refuse to do. - US-hosted - FP8 - 1 million context window - Zero input/output prompt retention Live now. 🧵

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Prof.Alexander @mr_mr_aziz

Hai :D Fable 5.1 is out :> I think they opus-ed it lol but I might try it out myself